OTHER VIEWS CONCERNING GEORGE TILLER

George Offerman

Below is a statement put out by Troy Newman, president of the Wichita Organization discussing the George Tiller situation, and what would appear to be Tiller’s ‘imminent’ retirement. He also takes the position to chastise Roeder, a man who contributed to his organization and had had personal contact with the members of the Wichita Organization. The response that follows was penned by Dan Holman, and represents another position that many Christians have taken, but have been soundly condemned by those like the Wichita Organization.

This posting is longer than normal, but I encourage the reader to persevere and take the time to look at both letters.


Abortionist Tiller was Slated to Soon Retire Before his Death

Tiller's planned retirement proves Operation Rescue's work was successful. Roeder was wrong.

Contact: Troy Newman, President, 316-841-1700; Cheryl Sullenger, Senior Policy Advisor, 316-516-3034; both with Operation Rescue, info@operationrescue.org

WICHITA, Kansas, May 31 /Christian Newswire/ -- At a fundraising dinner held on May 26, 2010, abortionist LeRoy Carhart told attendees that his employer, George Tiller, was making plans to soon retire prior to his murder by Scott Roeder last year. The information was reported on a feminist blog site by a woman who attended the event.

"Dr. Carhart confided that Tiller was slated to begin his retirement not long before his death," the blogger wrote.

Operation Rescue stated publicly in a commentary published on Feb. 2, 2010, that we believed that Tiller may have been planning to retire rather than face the disgrace of being disciplined for illegal late-term abortions by the Kansas Board of Healing Arts, which had filed an 11-count petition against him that was pending at the time of his death.

"Carhart confirms that we were correct in concluding that Tiller was ready to retire," said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman. "We had worked since 2002, through peaceful, legal avenues to expose the heinous nature of Tiller's late-term abortion business, bring him to justice, and close his abortion clinic. The fact that Tiller was preparing to quit proves that our efforts were successful. Unfortunately, Tiller's murder a year ago was a senseless and despicable act that wrongly took a life and denied the people justice under the law. If Roeder had not acted, Tiller would be retired today and his abortion clinic closed without violence. We were right. Roeder was as wrong as it gets."

The following is an excerpt from OR's February 2 commentary:

In March, 2009, Tiller was acquitted of the 19 criminal charges during a trial that took the jury less than 25 minutes to decide. But within minutes of that verdict, the Kansas State Board of Healing Arts, newly under the direction of Jack Confer, issued a statement that the Board was proceeding with eleven similar charges that could have led to the revocation of Tiller's medical license. Confer assured the public that the KSBHA worked under a different burden of proof than the criminal courts and that the outcome of the criminal case would have no effect on the KSBHA's case.

The timing and content of that release sent a strong message to the community that they could expect a different outcome from the KSBHA case. That message, along with indications that Tiller had taken steps to disband ProKanDo prior to his criminal trial and other intelligence gathered by Operation Rescue, led to the logical conclusion that either Tiller would soon have his license stripped by the KSBHA, or that he would retire in order to avoid the humiliation of revocation. We were cautiously optimistic that Tiller's infamous late-term abortion mill would be closed within months - through peaceful, legal means.

Operation Rescue is one of the leading pro-life Christian activist organizations in the nation and has become a strong voice for the pro-life movement in America. Operation Rescue is now headquartered in a former abortion clinic that it bought and closed in 2006. From there, Operation Rescue launches its innovative new strategies across the nation, exposing and closing abortion clinics through peaceful, legal means. Its activities are on the cutting edge of the abortion issue, taking direct action to stop abortion and ultimately restore legal personhood to the pre-born in obedience to biblical mandates.



The following is a response by Dan Holman, and it takes the form of presenting another side of this issue. So far, the ‘mainstream pro life’ groups have basically ‘iced’ any consideration of differing opinions from theirs, and in effect, have colluded with the MSM and death camps they claim to be against. The language is a little rough, but sometimes a little rough language is what the doctor calls for to make the point.



Pro-life Christian Assholes

Troy Newman’s May 31st Commentary: “Tiller's planned retirement proves Operation Rescue's work was successful. Roeder was wrong” His article defines the ignoble function of Operation Rescue in the body of the Pro-life Movement.

Troy has written much about Tiller’s baby-killing operation and the horrific crimes. For years Troy and others had fought admirably to shut Tiller’s operation down. Troy relied heavily on the “rule of law” to end Tillers killing spree. The best efforts of legal redress came to naught.

When baby-murder is the rule of law, all who resist are outlaws. Nothing Newman, Phil Kline, or anyone else did slowed Tiller’s baby-killing machinations. Scott Roeder, like David of old, slew the great giant with one projectile to the braincase. But instead of cheers from the pro-life camp, he was booed in the gallows. Troy was the first to condemn him!

We must ask ourselves why? Why would Troy Newman pull a long face over the death of a stinking baby killer? He makes his reasons clear in this article:

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/5087514036.html

"Carhart confirms that we were correct in concluding that Tiller was ready to retire," said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman. "We had worked since 2002, through peaceful, legal avenues to expose the heinous nature of Tiller's late-term abortion business, bring him to justice, and close his abortion clinic. The fact that Tiller was preparing to quit proves that our efforts were successful. Unfortunately, Tiller's murder a year ago was a senseless and despicable act that wrongly took a life and denied the people justice under the law. If Roeder had not acted, Tiller would be retired today and his abortion clinic closed without violence. We were right. Roeder was as wrong as it gets."

I wonder how many babies would be dead today had Scott Roeder not acted?

Would Tiller have retired by now? No one seems to know when he would have quit. I have been told that because of his Parkinson’s disease, others were doing his killing for him. His duties were mostly administrative. Troy’s “ace in the hole” was his hope that the Kansas Medical Board would have pulled his license sometime in the future. This is very doubtful considering that Tiller won every legal challenge. Even if Tiller’s license were pulled, he could have operated on the licenses of visiting assassins.

This discussion is important because Troy knows a motive of vengeance (or punishment) is indefensible, but a motive of defense of others is justifiable homicide. That why Troy is focusing on these arguments: “Tiller was going to retire anyway, he was going to lose his license, so Scott Roeder was wrong to kill him.”

Newman would be right if Tiller were retired, if he were no longer killing. The facts are he was not retired, his license, and his practice were active at the time of the shooting. Even IF Tillers role in killing babies were diminished; he still played a vital active role in their deaths. He was a party to the crime. His building was the theater of operation; his nurse, his secretary, his money helped assassins snuff out the lives of the innocent. His baby-killing operation closed the week he was killed.

There must be something unsaid with Troy for him to be so hostile toward Scott Roeder. I believe it is fear, fame, and greed. Troy, like the Apostle Peter, denied that he knew Scott Roeder. Scott writes me that he was a contributor to OR and had met with Troy in the past. I believe Troy scrubbed his records, his memory, and his conscience in the heat of the controversy. In so doing so he missed a golden opportunity to speak up on behalf of the babies that Mr. Roeder so courageously defended.

Troy pursued fame over truth by denying that Scott Roeder was justified in shooting George Tiller. It is popular among effeminate pro-lifer supporters to be against the justified use of force (self defense and defense of others), wars, even just wars, and the death penalty. I am told by a reliable source that before Tiller was shot Troy held to the justifiable use of force doctrine. In panic his views have changed.

Troy is not camera shy. He wants to be the spokesman and face of the pro-life movement. One cannot do that when they hold to a controversial and unpopular view, even if it is the truth.

The truth is Scott Roeder was justified in killing George Tiller. Troy and the majority of the pro-life movement hold to a damnable double standard. They have one set of rules and values for post-born children and other set of rules and values for pre-born children. They tacitly deny the humanity of the pre-born by denying them equal protection. Pro-lifers like Troy are justly criticized, marginalized, and ridiculed by the world.

One day their duplicity will be exposed and condemned. You can bet Troy Newman and his ilks are constantly monitoring the winds of change, and conforming their opinions accordingly.

Meanwhile, I shall call them what they are: “assholes,” “pro-life Christian assholes” with a shitty theology.

Dan Holman